The Coral dissing The La's... Tut Tut

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great dance though

Postby sushi » Tue Apr 22, 2003 7:05 pm

how come it never caught on nationally?

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guitarists and controversy...

Postby James » Tue Apr 22, 2003 11:29 pm

bill ryder jones is good, granted... but i'd hardly bracket him as amazing...very like the Edge U2... pretty much all his guitar (live at least) is put through tremelo and delay... even the ropiest one string lead guitar solo can sound quite nifty through a touch of the FX...as a band tho yeh i'd agree the coral are good musicians...<br>
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at the end of the day... the coral win on both counts with any ''dissing'' if it did take place... they get column inches in music rags, they get press, they get controversial headlines, and get portrayed as arrogant and cocky...they cant lose!!! in the same instance, most new Liverpool bands get the La's/Beatles comparison...always gonna happen...<br>
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if anything I'd be proud if I was in a band compared to the La's...<br>
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troublemakers

Postby sushi » Sun May 18, 2003 9:40 am

well i just saw a canadian website where paul from the coral calls the la's and shack troublemakers, in the sense that record companies were reluctant to sign liverpool groups after them.

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Re: troublemakers

Postby Syl » Sun May 18, 2003 2:16 pm

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Courtesy of the Canadian Music site - Exclaim!<br>
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Original Source: <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.exclaim.ca/index.asp?layid=22&csid1=1432&dact=4">The Coral @ Exclaim!</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>
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No Scouse in the Coral’s House<br>
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By Lorraine Carpenter <br>
February 28, 2003<br>
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From the Beach Boys to Lee “Scratch” Perry to Destiny’s Child to Walt Disney, the Coral’s list of influences looks like a family MP3 collection, a musical melee with a little something for everyone. The British sextet, just barely out of their teens, also credit Oasis with adding wind to their sails, though their self-titled debut album bears little resemblance to the Gallaghers, or to much else, really. Aside from occasional Doors comparison and cries of “chaotically brilliant!,” London’s music press machine typically brands the Coral with tags like “nifty skull ‘n’ crossbones Cossack psych-polka.”<br>
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“It’s a bit silly saying we’re pirates,” says the Coral’s bassist/sax player, Paul Duffy. “And they keep referring to ‘scousers,’ but we’re not scousers, we come from Hoylake. And we don’t go around slashing tires either.”<br>
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It’s amazing what’s said in the society pages these days. The Coral come from Wirral county, ’cross the Mersey from the scousers, aka Liverpudlians. But their proximity puts them in the same boat as Liverpool’s new guitar acts (the Zutons, Tramp Attack, etc.), still trying to live down the bad rep that’s followed scousers since the early ’90s.<br>
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“Management started to turn away from Liverpool ’cause bands like the La’s and Shack were troublemakers,” says Duffy, who adds that being in Shack’s shadow hasn’t been all bad. In fact, it was former Shack drummer Alan Wills who discovered the Coral and developed their label Deltasonic, which works hard to wet-nurse a budding ’Pudlian scene. And while the Coral can’t deny their inner Beatles and Bunnymen, the sea has probably provided as much influence as any star scousers.<br>
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“We grew up in an old fisherman’s village so obviously that’s reflected in our music,” says Duffy, explaining their sea shanty single, “Shadows Fall.” “I guess the people over the water are always a little bit different.”<br>
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...aye....

Postby Stuart I » Sun May 18, 2003 4:01 pm

...you could say there are a few 'different' people around Berkin'ed........<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :x --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/sick.gif ALT=":x"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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mmm.......

Postby scott » Sun May 18, 2003 4:17 pm

Oh you can say that again!

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....aye.....

Postby Stuart I » Sun May 18, 2003 8:14 pm

....you could say...etc etc, bad joke........<br>
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...I was waiting in the car park the other day, behind tk-maks and some guys were just sifting through the big bins there, one of them almost fell in at one point in his quest to find whatever was lurking at the bottom...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ...<br>
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....they're 'swag' consisted of some old wrapping paper I think, I just carried on reading me MOJO......<br>
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...but I don't think thats the kind of people the guy from the Coral was thinking of, I mean, not everyones 'different' over here as he's thinkin' of, you've only got to see some of the other indie drones that play round here......

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quotes

Postby James » Mon May 19, 2003 12:30 am

must be weird being interviewed, you want to state your case/big up your band, and sound arrogant to sell yourself... but that ''quote'' of the la's and shack being troublemakers is a bit harsh... although in one sense, the La's may be viewed as ''difficult'' to work with, whereas Shack have been unlucky with being dropped and had a few other probs, yet have still produced 40+ songs, which isnt prolific but still a good demonstration of what they can do... <br>
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heh, i'd bet if lee mavers had go! discs and steve lillywhite on his cv as references, he'd get a bad write up!! heh...<br>
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before the scousers of the board get riled, this aint my opinion, but....a mate of mine has recently applied to glastonbury to try and blag his way in for a free weekend via the opportunity to get a job as a site steward/litter collector type person... he was given various literature/forms to fill in, he told me about something, and...dont quote me on this, as i cant remember the source he claimed, but there was a statement saying that ''of 63% of theft which occured at glastonbury, those people were from north west england, primarily Liverpool and south west manchester''...<br>
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so there is still a hex following scousers/manc's about..., now i can understand manc's being thieves, what with noel g. being guilty of some musical theft over the years heh heh...<br>
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remember, im not mister controversial...<br>
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James (awaiting the anti-geordie backlash)

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Glastonbury......

Postby Stuart I » Mon May 19, 2003 10:58 am

...a lad I new goes down to glastonbury every year and works on a burger bar there, I remember him saying last year there was gangs of lads from Liverpool hangin around outside the fence/enterance.......lookin to blag their way in, I think he said that he heard later on that some other lads had been battered outside and lost their tickets.......<br>
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....but I've never been down meself so I wouldn't know what It's like......not to keen on payin 80 nicker or whatever it is to watch the Dandy Arseholes and Macy gray........

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glasto

Postby sushi » Mon May 19, 2003 1:09 pm

well i'm finally going to my first glasto (been to loads of other festivals but used to just settle for watching glasto on tv, due to financial reasons. but now i'm making an exception due to the new band(wagon) tent, and arthur lee is confirmed<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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i know scousers have a bad rep for being tea leafs, and i foolishly/drunkenly/overexcitedly left my bag unattended in the zanzibar while i took photos of the bands, but nobody nicked my wallet.

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Re: The Coral dissing The La's... Tut Tut

Postby Ming-8L » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:16 am

Old thread but recall reading something relevant to one of the Coral members slagging Lee and his mystical views. I've got my pen as sword out.
Mavers and Badger must have read quite a few poets and philosophers since they talked about Liverpool as "the pool of life" and other symbolic ideas. And if that Coral member wants to badmouth Lee he has to badmouth Badger too as they both spoke about this quite a bit. I dare him to confront Badger about it! "Pool of Life" comes from a quote by Carl Jung about a Liverpool dream he had. So the guy is slagging one of the greatest 20th century minds. Here's the context, 2nd paragraph: http://jungcurrents.com/jungs-liverpool ... sooty-city. Now tell me is Jung is crazy or profound.

The guy could have spoken to John when he was still on the rebound from leaving the la's. Anyway it's discriminatory, low & cruel to criticize people who are a bit different. I agree it's part of what make Lee so amazing, beautiful. Yeah, Lee had a bit of a problem back then, Head and many others did too. (The problem started though with disagreements with the record label, then a locked in long contract, in music jail like). Nothing like kicking people when they're down. Jealous bully. Lies and innuendo. "We all know Crap is King, give us dirty laundry." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-LFhqrNp7U
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Re: The Coral dissing The La's... Tut Tut

Postby Ming-8L » Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:26 pm

Bill Ryder-Jones' influences are rock artists such as Syd Barrett... from Wikipeda. :lol: Just a bit hypocritical.
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