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The Coral dissing The La's... Tut Tut

Postby Anonymous » Sat Jan 04, 2003 6:44 pm

I havent got the link handy, but i'll post it soon<br>
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but in a coral interveiw ive read, they are slagging of the la's and especially Lee Mavers. Its mainly the guitarist 'Bill ryder-Jones' or what ever his name is. He refers to Lee Mavers as 'fuckin' mavers' and talks of how Lee has got some 'serious problems'<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
AND there a completely different artical which slags off the la's which i'll also post the links to. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
I mean they can voice a valid opinion, but there's no need to it with a venom and spite is there??<br>
Personally i think Lee has problems, i thinks he's wierd, and i think he's arrogant, but in my opinion thats what made him such a unique artist and i'm defending him here cos i'm not saying it with spite. All the arrogance, weirdness, and ideas/visions that he had that is what made him a fuckin' brilliant songwriter for me and probably all of you. Without all that, he would have fallen victim to all the shitty production and record companys, so i say WELL DONE Lee for sticking to your priciples cos if i could do it... I would!!<br>
Wierdness and arrogance is what made many artists, eg pink floyd, and the experimental side of the Beatles and Lee was lucky to be that talanted. Any1 agree?<br>
By the way will someone put the full length NJ homdel gardens gig on a spare cd for me? My internet connection speed is crap so i cant dowload it <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :( --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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I should be back here later with the 2 links, till then...<br>
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Re: The Coral dissing The La's... Tut Tut

Postby Anonymous » Sat Jan 04, 2003 7:02 pm

I don't know if this is true, I'll believe it when I see the links. If it is, Ryder-Jones has got a feckin' cheek!<br>
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The Coral are one of my favourite bands since the La's and I think they are very talented lads, but who the feck is anyone to talk about someones private life and problems they may have, especially when they barely know the geezer.<br>
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Personally, from what I've seen of Lee, any problems look long gone. He is a genius, no two ways about it, and the fact that he *chooses* to record his songs at home rather than Abbey Road is a matter in itself, worthy of some praise. And what is weird about living at home with your wife and kids!<br>
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Long live the King<br>
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Marc

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Heres the links...its defo true

Postby Anonymous » Sat Jan 04, 2003 7:15 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/292030/ref%3Ded%5Fcp%5F10%5F3%5Fm%5Fh%5F/202-3461059-5728654">www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obi...59-5728654</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>
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Exactly he dosent even know that guy, thats what i sed. They praise the head brothers though. But his problems are what makes him the best i think!! His problems are benificial!!! Its a Good Point!!!<br>
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Cant find the other link though but that was just saying 'how is lee mavers a genius, he only released one album?'<br>
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But we know better!!!<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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i would like to see your replys plz<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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Re: Heres the links...its defo true

Postby Syl » Sat Jan 04, 2003 7:24 pm

A text dump of the article.<br>
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Like the art work for their eponymous debut, The Coral's music is a surreal, theatrical collage. Considering the amount of ideas here--it features bizarre sea shanties, Cossack rhythms, mariachi guitars and the pottiest of lyrics--The Coral is surprisingly coherent. With references to a wide range of artists including The Doors, Captain Beefheart, The Byrds and Miles Davis, The Coral are like musical magpies with exquisite taste.<br>
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Amazon.co.uk contributor Louis Pattison spoke to guitarist Bill Ryder Jones about his and the band's eclectic tastes in music and why he thinks The Coral are creating such a stir.<br>
Amazon.co.uk: You've been compared to a very diverse range of bands--everyone from Captain Beefheart to The La's. Do you actually listen to all these bands, or is it just people desperately trying to sum you up?<br>
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Bill Ryder Jones: Yeah, we listen to loads of Captain Beefheart. As a band, we don't really listen to The La's that much, although we have before. Sometimes it throws me, things that people say --it's like, fucking hell, have we been picking up stuff that we've never even heard? But I love Shack, I love Love, I love the West Coast Experimental Pop Art Band. The Yardbirds The Byrds, The Chocolate Watch Band. Miles Davis is just blowing my mind. Hip-hop, dub music, soul music, blues, Russian jazz, songs from the civil war. Lots of 60s psychedelia...<br>
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Amazon.co.uk: That list explains pretty much where you're coming from...<br>
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Bill: But that's just one part of six. As a guitarist, a record like the West Coast Experimental Pop Art Band--that's taught me this scale which I've used in about three of our new tunes. But the bands coming out of Liverpool now--The Hokum Clones, The Zutons--are playing music as good as anything I can listen to. It's a serious happening. And all I need to do is go up to the rehearsal room above us, and I can hear it.<br>
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Amazon.co.uk: Are The Coral a creative democracy?<br>
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Bill: Well, basically, one person comes up with the riff, and then they bring it to the band. James could write a whole song in his bedroom, but he'd have no idea of how he'd want it presented with the other instruments. So he'd give me, or Ian a ring, and say "I've got this tune...", so we'd take it into the rehearsal studio, and jam around and pull it apart. You can imagine what it's like when we do an interview... six voices, shouting over each other. Writing a song is very much like that, but with guitars. I imagine that's very much how a band like Can worked, you know? They're another band that, just recently, have blown my mind.<br>
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Amazon.co.uk: Has there ever been a stage where you've all stood in a rehearsal room, and gone--"shit, no-one in the outside world is gonna get this at all..."<br>
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Our songs belong to everyone now. We're not writing songs against the world anymore. It's us, and the world--if the world wants it. <br>
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Bill: But that's the thing! There's a connection that between us... we get it. And if you think that other people aren't gonna get it, well, there are people out there that are tuned in. James has a real love for his songs--and he was saying actually, after this tour, that it was really weird to see people singing his own songs back at him. Our songs belong to everyone now. We're not writing songs against the world anymore. It's us, and the world--if the world wants it.<br>
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Amazon.co.uk: Have you ever met Lee Mavers of The La's? He's got a mystical view of Liverpool. He believes, for instance, that all life springs from the Mersey.<br>
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Bill: Fucking Mavers, all this mad bullshit that he comes out with. He was once a fucking incredible songwriter. I've not met him, but I've heard about him from people that have. And he's got serious problems, now, in my understanding. I mean, I've got problems, so who am I to say? But it's a shame. He was one of the greatest songwriters of his generation.<br>
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But I'll tell you who are better than The La's ever were: Shack. Mick Head and John Head write amazing songs. John Head just turned the world of guitar upside-down for me. Mick and John were brothers. You could tell they were always on exactly the same wavelength. We played a gig with them recently, and it was a boss night. We'd just played our set when John Head came over, he was bladdered, and he was like "Lads, you were boss, like". That's been one of the high points of being in a band, for me <br>
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I'll tell you want does my head in--the idea of that punk ethic thing being the best thing. I mean, why not learn your fucking instrument? A hundred years ago, it was all about musicianship--who could play their instrument best. But nowadays, people have just fucked that up. Now, it's who can make it look the best. And you know what? I saw Kelly Jones from Stereophonics on Jools Holland the other day, and he was dancing like The Coral do, with his guitar. He's just jumping the bandwagon, man. Not in tunes--I don't think he's got the ability. I don't think anyone could rip us off without it being totally obvious. Our music doesn't sound like anyone else's.<br>
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Amazon.co.uk: You've recently signed a reported £1 million deal with Sony. Sounds like they were pretty keen.<br>
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Bill: Yeah... they've heard us. Why wouldn't they? To be honest, we're the most exciting new band in the country. I know that, because I've heard all the others, and they're not doing anything we haven't heard before. Sony love us. I've got all the contracts in my bedroom. Yeah, they must have been eager to sign us. You would be, though. We're a great band. You know, I'm a fan of music, and I know if we'd have come out when The Stone Roses were about, we'd still have been a boss band.<br>
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Re: Heres the links...its defo true

Postby Syl » Sat Jan 04, 2003 7:32 pm

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Don't be too harsh, read the article <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>AGAIN..</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>
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If I was in the guitarists shoes I'd feel the same way, journos of course ruffle the feathers too, that's their job.. eh..<br>
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Heh, Badman is a fav. of mine.. had it on the portable walkin' into Dublin today..<br>
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Re: Heres the links...its defo true

Postby Anonymous » Sat Jan 04, 2003 7:49 pm

Why would you feel the same way Syl?

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Fair cop, i was only trying to curb my own inadequacies

Postby jojothemadmonkey » Sat Jan 04, 2003 8:05 pm

The lad makes some fair points, but all I can do is picture the rest of the band sitting behind him going, "who the fuck is he?".<br>
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I mean, I like the Coral, they are one of the best bands out there at the moment, and I don't mind them being cocky.<br>
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BUT...I do think their guitarist is on the kick-off. I mean, he should really not talk about people's private lives to a fucking reporter, and it isn't as if the Coral's stage demeanour is original, it's merely different from bands at the moment.<br>
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Also, that crap about learning to play their instruments. The Coral guitarist is by far not the best musician in the band, he plays simple riffs quite well, and blends well with the others, that is why the band is good, the blend of music, much like Lee aimed for in his studio recordings.<br>
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Re: Heres the links...its defo true

Postby Syl » Sat Jan 04, 2003 8:26 pm

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Scally'<br>
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Imagine, every other feature about the band you're in starts off with a journo shite-ing off about this and that band and usually The La's.. a musical version of pin the tail on the donkey's rear.. what it sounds like?, comments not made out of malice but frustration..<br>
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btw - my little hobby is fonts, love 'em.. The Coral font is one called ' Butterfield ', the bands font and various others can be seen here..<br>
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Re: Fair cop, i was only trying to curb my own inadequacies

Postby Anonymous » Sat Jan 04, 2003 8:37 pm

To be fair, Bill Ryder-Jones is a superb guitarist. I have seen The Coral live and I couldn't take me eyes off what he did with his guitar.<br>
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Although it might sound simple, he uses techniques that you will never see from other bands around today to get mad sounds from his guitar and although he uses effects pedals, he doesn't rely on them like most!<br>
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BUT.....I still think what he said about Lee is bang out of order, especially when it is based on a bunch of rumours from other people......Bad form Bill!<br>
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OakeyDoakey

Postby jojothemadmonkey » Sat Jan 04, 2003 8:44 pm

I'm willing to accept that scallywag la'.

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eh

Postby zanzibaa » Sat Jan 04, 2003 9:09 pm

james and ian have met mavers,thats were hes getting his ideas from.

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Coral slagging the La's......

Postby Stuart I » Sat Jan 04, 2003 11:30 pm

...just read that interview, sounds like that guy's a bit of a tit, and shouldn't be saying Lee has 'serious problems' to the media like........The coral ain't even from Liverpool so theres no need to go on about The La's.....if people keep asking them about the La's that is.......maybe it's a bit like Lee and John on that interview from Canada...''So, you guy's are from Liverpool right?..so you must like the Beatles?''.......but he still should keep his mouth shut, even if he knew it was true......which he doesn't......<br>
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I saw the Coral about 4 years ago, playing with Trilby outside the bluecoat chambers in Liverpool...and I think they're great, alot better than what else is around....but they're not original by a long shot.....as someone above me said, just different to all the other bands that are out......check out some of The Stairs tracks, b-sides and things....pretty similar, and that was over a decade ago.....<br>
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To many people commiting hate crimes man.......nark!......

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eh

Postby zanzibaa » Sun Jan 05, 2003 12:01 am

im still looking for stairs gear and cant get none anywhere!

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Re: eh

Postby Anonymous » Sun Jan 05, 2003 12:07 am

I've had weed bus ep on vinyl for about a year and I still ain't heard it yet...My vinyl player broke the day I bought it <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >: --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/mad.gif ALT=">:"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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eh

Postby zanizbaa » Sun Jan 05, 2003 12:18 am

scall ive just sent you mail.see ya later.

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